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  1. “This is crying over spilled milk, but when does replay become more about correcting obvious mistakes rather than determining outcomes in games? And when does a defensive player get the benefit of the doubt when it comes to making an attempt to make a play, which Edmunds clearly does here?”

    This is THE key point in my real concern with officiating. Well, besides the fact that the refs suck in general. But, beyond that, as this still picture clearly shows, Edmunds got his head around to make a play on the ball, which in and of itself should negate almost all contact but the most egregious. And egregious this was NOT! So, tired of this kind of pure horse manure…

  2. Of course. I’m often talking to myself anyway. Both on this site and in real life. Hey, wait a minute, maybe there’s something to tha….

    Haha. No problem Christina!

  3. Good stuff Christina! Pretty much went to form. I mentioned in Joe’s article that I didn’t think Sutton Smith had a chance with his immense time off (added to his already diminutive stature and small school “handicap” coming in). It’s too bad too, because I really wanted him to make it all work out! Oh well. I DID think they would keep 10 because I couldn’t see any way they could let Skipper OR Gilbert III go. But I thought they would trim at O-Line since they were so deep and versatile. I was a little surprised it was at WR though. Although, I still believe Holton comes back after they make some IR move here by tomorrow. That will get the WR room back to six (6) bodies. We’ll see real soon!

    Anyway, good recap here!

  4. Skipper just turned 24 which makes him a tad older and this is Holton’s third training camp/team in as many years. Holton is 28 years old…

    As for Smith, he looked just fine out there IMO. Being drafted oftentimes not being drafted when it comes to making the 53. Just because a player racks up sacks doesn’t mean it translates to the regular season or even making the roster. We’ve seen this when Arthur Moats “crushed the JVs” or Howard Jones had strip sacks for touchdown returns too.

    The ultimate factor for me, in regard to Skippers, is that the team didn’t even consider seeing what Skipper could do on special teams. He played there last night, but was that due to lack of bodies? Anyone that deep on the roster at LB must play special teams.

    That’s also a thing with Holton: would the Steelers use him on special teams and in what capacity? They’ve used Burns as a gunner and three other WRs as returners, which limits Holton’s appeal where he’d likely be most used (i.e. replacing DHB’s role).

    I think Skipper can still make it, but he’s toward the bottom of the pecking order (as is Smith honestly). Depends on the numbers game. Do they keep 8? 9? 10? What other players are being retained at other positions such as WR, OL, DL and the secondary? Sean Davis being banged up may have an immediate impact on how many safeties the carry and could easily see Jordan Dangerfield (or someone else released from another team) jump onto the 53 and take up an extra “5th” spot not accounted for in my list.

  5. I drop Eli for Holton. Holton has something that nobody else on that list has (outside the top 3) — speed and height. He’s shown well enough that he’s capable AND he’s been the gunner running with 1st team punt team. He is the 2019 version of DHB.

    Sutton Smith (unfortunately) doesn’t sniff the 53 right now. How can he? His injuries alone are enough to keep him from it as he hasn’t shown anything yet. Plus, as undersized and unproven (and out of a small school) as he is, his chances of getting poached off waivers are extremely close to 0%. Skipper on the other hand has shown himself to be a baller. 5 sacks, 2 FFs, 2 tackles on STs (last night — out of 5 kickoffs! 40% is a pretty high tackle rate though certainly a limited sample size. But it shows he has a nose for the ball). There is NO CHANCE I expose him to waivers. And I’m not sure what you meant in the comment above Joe that Skipper (and Holton) have been around the block? Certainly Holton has been a bit. But Skipper JUST graduated (or completed his time at) Toledo this Spring. He was on the 2018 Toledo FB team. At any rate, I can see no chance that Smith makes this 53 given his injuries in preseason. I AM excited about him but he will learn and have a red-shirt year on the PS.

    As to Matekevich, I agree with you that I’d MUCH rather keep UG3. Give me a guy that you aren’t afraid to put on the field at his “position” AND has shown to be good (with ability to progress) on ST over a guy that you hope and pray NEVER sees the field defensively any day and every day. I still think the Steelers keep him though.

    Other than that, I love your picks. I’m all in with those two changes I mentioned. Unfortunately, I don’t think they’ll call and ask what I’m thinking. LOL

  6. Both Skipper and Holton have been around the block already. While they could stick around a la Xavier Grimble, I believe there’s less need at both positions. Holton could sneak in as a taller/faster WR that doesn’t seem to appear anywhere else on the roster, but they’re loaded at the position.

    Smith showed plenty yesterday and injuries won’t be held against his potential. Preseason stats don’t justify whether or not a player makes it or not. We’ve seen that many of times throughout the years with the likes of Howard Jones or Damoan Patterson. Great performances, but ended up not being a fit for the Steelers.

    Keep in mind I skew my picks toward what I think they’re thinking and not necessarily my personal favorites. That would be reflected in Diontae Spencer, who is my preseason pick but likely another odd man out at a deep position.

    Thanks for the comment!

  7. Congratulations! You’re the first writer to suggest that the Steelers drop Matekevich in favor of a younger more athletic Ulysses Gilbert. However I don’t understand what you’ve seen from Sutton Smith to select him over Tuzar Skipper. In addition it seems Smith is more likely to make it to the practice squad, while most agree Skipper would be scooped up by another team.
    Personally I believe Holton is the only burner available and he’s shown four “splash” plays. If Rudolph hadn’t underthrown his 40 yard reception would have also been a touchdown. Thanks.

  8. I’d love to see Burns keep up the intensity. The drops were frustrating, but I think we’ll see a much better performance in the third preseason game.

  9. Thank you Joe! You hit the nail right on the head with every part. With the way we’ve bolstered the defense, I believe this is going to be a 13-3, 12-4 season as well. Keep up the great work!

  10. Haha. I hear ya Joe. I’m not sure I would give him a dud rating, but I DEFINITELY agree that he wasn’t as good as week 1. But, he still wasn’t bad and that drive was very very nice.

  11. “So why the “dud” rating?

    Mike Tomlin was non-committal in saying if Rudolph had closed the gap in the backup quarterback competition and stated there was “no separation” with two games played. That deflates the hype around Rudolph and could mean his stock isn’t, in fact, rising.”

    I agree with most of what you’ve written, but I take this quote from Tomlin (and yes, I watched the video of these comments as well) with a grain of salt. 99% of the time that Tomlin speaks to these sorts of questions, he follows with some variation of “Tomlin speak” that says nothing OR is 100% non-committal. To me (and I’m a football fan, not a technician nor analyst), the drive that Rudolph led by itself was enough to make him (if not a winner, then at minimum) a neutral character. His completion rate was 67% (+ performance) and when you factor in the 2-3 drops, he was very accurate. Yeah, most of his passes were of the short variety, but that throw to Washington down the seam (22 yards I think?) was, in the vernacular of SCU, a grown-ass man throw! I also thought the throw into the end-zone that was nearly picked was a very good throw and Eli Rogers “should have” come back to the ball MUCH sooner. If he breaks at the same time as the DBs broke on it, I think he catches it at the 1-2 yard line. My seats are right in that corner at the goal line and that was also the (very unlearned, yet consistent) commentary around me on that play too. “Why didn’t Eli come back to that ball with his QB on the run?”

    Great write-up Joe!

    • I felt as if I couldn’t give Rudolph a “stud” rating this week and still wanted to discuss his game. It felt (on the surface) that his stock didn’t increase, and with Coach T saying that, also deflating his performance as well. But I also agree with everything you said too. It was sort of in limbo due to drops: but I felt like this week was a decline from the previous, hence the “dud” rating. (If some other sites didn’t do “stock” ratings that might be more appropriate as this is how I was viewing it this time around. But I won’t steal their idea/headline 🙂 )

  12. They looked good again tonight. Burns was especially impressive. The blanket coverage he displayed most of the night was awesome. I mean, he had guys locked up tight almost every snap. It was a good overall showing although the drops were a touch annoying/frustrating.

  13. Good stuff Joe. I have stated several times on various boards, that Snell should get a partial pass on his night. Of his 13 runs, I can only think of 2 (maybe 3) where he even reached the line of scrimmage before being smacked by a defender. The O-line just was not helpful at all for the large majority of the early going at least. It did get a little better over time though…

  14. It was an impressive debut for this team and for all the new pieces. Well, most of them. It did nothing to dampen my enthusiasm for the season. I’m glad you pointed out the fact that the O-line did NO favors for the run game. I’ve seen/heard several folks saying Snell was unimpressive. My eyeball test in the stadium last night told me that he MAY have had 2-3 of his touches/runs where he made it all the way to the line of scrimmage before first contact with a defender. Kinda tough to look good when you’re constantly getting hit as soon as you take the hand-off. Overall, I loved what I saw from this team.

  15. Great write-up. Thank you Joe. Look forward to watching these guys (and all the rest) during the preseason!

  16. Can’t wait to be in Heinz Field on Friday night to catch me some Steelers preseason football! I’m one of these weirdos that LOVES preseason games. Only because this site (along with a few others I stay current with!) does such an incredible job leading up to the draft, through the draft, into the off-season program, and through training camp to get me amped about all 90 (91 in our case of course) of these guys chasing a dream. So, I love to watch them put it on the line and chase during the four PS games! #HereWeGo

  17. Exactly the way I’d have it Zac! But, to be fair, I’m a very young baby boomer OR a very old Gen X’er. So, I prefer to think of myself as a hybrid X-Boomer! I guess, regardless, I’m old. That much we can agree on. LOL

  18. Haha. I’m always lurking. I’m in and around the site every day reading. But sometimes it feels like I’m talking to myself when I comment — and God knows I already do enough of that IRL — so I just read most days. Haha