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  1. Terell “slash” Pryor is available as a Receiver/QB!

  2. “I know your type: you have to use Le’Veon Bell! He’s the best back in the league… ”

    And if he’s not spelled on occasion he’ll be injured and not around long.

    Oh wait, he’s out again.

    Parker was one of the best backs in the league too, BOTH of his OC’s TRIED to lesson his load, and HE had a short career.

    Bell is on pace to be gone even FASTER.

    “Bryant getting yanked: had anything to do with dropping the first pass in the game? And another deep ball as well”

    No, because this constant shuffling always happens, whither he’s dropping passes or not. It’s been a four year Haley staple, Bryant has been here for less than TWO.

    “You also apparently have zero issue with Alejandro Villanueva or Cody Wallace, both backup linemen, missing their assignments, which lead to Ben’s sacks/injuries this year. Maybe I’ll start a don’t blame Mike Munchak” thread so you can throw him under the bus too.”

    Arians dealt with injuries on the OL too.

    That didn’t matter to Art II. Ben and Arians were blamed.

    Once again, Art II set the ground rules. I’m just holding his hand picked OC to them.

    If Haley shouldn’t be blamed, then Art II should publicly apologize to Ben, the way he insulted him, after 2011.

  3. Ben games missed due to injury each OC:

    Haley: 8

    Whiz: 4

    Arians: 2

    Haley has failed at what he was hired to do. He’s ruined Ben’s career.

    • You know, last night driving home from the game, I knew you’d come on this morning and blame Todd Haley for Ben’s injury. That’s low, even for someone with viewpoints as yourself.

      I guess it’s all you can do when you’ve run out of all other arguments.

      • “You know, last night driving home from the game, I knew you’d come on this morning and blame Todd Haley for Ben’s injury. That’s low, even for someone with viewpoints as yourself.”

        As low as Art Rooney II blaming Arians for the same thing?

        Don’t blame me for holding Haley to the same standards that Art II set for Arians and Ben after 2011.

        Blame Art.

        My arguments are sound and filled with facts and logic. You wave your Terrible Towel and cheer. Yay.

        All I heard from people is “wait until Bryant comes back, we’ll be ready”.

        But yet, Bryant gets removed from the game on 3rd down for DHB and Bryant played less than 50% of the teams offensive snaps Sunday. Ditto for Wheaton, the alleged #2 WR on this team. That’s why Ben forces pass to Brown and Miller. They are the ONLY two pass catchers he can count on to be out there every snap.

        Too much subbing, too much confusion, too much Todd Haley trying to show how smart he is.

        He used DeAngelo Williams for the first time in 8 weeks. Because he HAD to. Not because he WANTED to.

        • I know your type: you have to use Le’Veon Bell! He’s the best back in the league… but you’re not using DeAngelo Williams enough! But you have to use Bell! And Williams!

          Get over yourself.

          Bryant getting yanked: had anything to do with dropping the first pass in the game? And another deep ball as well… ever notice coaches at every level do that, and also do that with RBs when they fumble? But I’m sure you have the answers…

          You also apparently have zero issue with Alejandro Villanueva or Cody Wallace, both backup linemen, missing their assignments, which lead to Ben’s sacks/injuries this year. Maybe I’ll start a don’t blame Mike Munchak” thread so you can throw him under the bus too.

  4. And for those who think Ben’s contract makes him a lock to stay? May I present to you Colin Kaepernick, and his $61 million benched dollars.

  5. Twenty or less on offense in 11 of their past 16 games since that SNF game against the Ravens ended.

    See enough yet Joe? Or does Ben’s legacy have to be completely destroyed first?

    • Good morning troll! I see a Steelers loss brought you out from under your bridge again! 🙂

      So, let me ask you this: are you blaming Todd Haley for this loss? Did Haley throw 3 picks? Did Haley drop those passes? Did he pick up the flag for pass interference? Did he cause Bell to tear his MCL?

      Come back to me when you can blame it on the coach and not the players. (BTW, this would’ve been my same reply for KC as well. Landry Jones actually had a better rating than Ben did this week, but hey, it’s all Haley’s fault and part of the conspiracy…)

      • “So, let me ask you this: are you blaming Todd Haley for this loss? Did Haley throw 3 picks? Did Haley drop those passes? Did he pick up the flag for pass interference? Did he cause Bell to tear his MCL?”

        Let me ask you this: Did Haley throw 12 TD passes in a two week strecth last season?

        If you’re giving him credit? Which you do. You also have to give him the blame.

        Twenty points or less on offense, in 11 of their last 16 games since that six TD game against Baltimore last season.

        If Haley isn’t the problem? Then you must feel Ben is.

        And Ben would have to go.

        Todd Haley was a psycho POS loser BEFORE we hired him.

        And now he’s dragging this team right down the goddamn drain with him.

        If Haley stays? Ben has to go.

        This can’t continue.

  6. We are now up to twenty points or less in 21 of their last 40 games.

    Ben has now missed due to injury 7 games with Todd Haley.

    Ben missed TWO games due to injury with Bruce Arians.

    Fire this clown, promote Fichtner, and try to salvage Ben’s career before Haley kills it for good.

  7. After Todd Haley’s play-calling in OT tonight I’m done here. You guys have nothing left. Enjoy 4 and 12.

  8. So much for Haley’s offense keeping Ben safe.

    Matt Cassel 2011

    Ben 2012

    Byron Leftwich 2012

    Ben 2015

    All KO’d in Todd Haley’s “safer offense”.

    • Are you happy now? Ben’s hurt. Now you can blame Haley, the Rooneys and whatever else. You truly are miserable if you’re celebrating an injury to justify your agenda.

      • No I’m pissed off, because there was NOTHING WRONG with this football team until an unqualified owner, hired his unqualified OC who’s Daddy worked for this team, to put Ben Roethlisberger in his place.

        And what happened? He’s been hurt twice anyway, and they haven’t won dick since.

        If they don’t fire Haley? Then Ben either has to retire or ask for a trade/his release.

        Because Todd Haley’s offense isn’t good enough to win a Super Bowl, and it’s not good enough to keep Ben on the field, and it’s affecting his career and his health.

  9. The other thing is that thanks to the Fracking industry the region and presumably the city is growing again. Frankly, if you look at Travis’ style, it’s very crude.

  10. Joe thank you for the article it was at least fair. I am A long time Steelers fan and a hometown fan Landry Jones from New Mexico. I defend them a lot I feel like he has been treated poorly and gotten a raw deal from Pittsburgh fans and in the NFL. I think Landry is going to be Aaron Rodgers 2.0. If you follow Steelers depot, they published training camp stats from 11 on 11. Landry completed 65% of 235 throws against and with the starters and second teamers as well throwing 30 touchdowns. Ben completed 69% and 39 touchdowns but only threw to the starters. Last night Michael Vick showed how bad the backup line is for the Steelers. As the third guy Landry has been really limited by whom he has played with in the preseason. Landry is showing that he has adjusted to the NFL and can make it. It infuriated me to no end to hear people talk about how that he was and couldn’t even throw the ball. What people forgot was he wasn’t just any average quarterback in college. Landry Jones was all time NCAA in attempts and completions he was ranked third in yards and 5th in touchdowns. Plus his all time big 12 Records which I think he has three or four. There were many many first round QB drafted out of the big 12. Oklahoma fans we’re spoiled and expected him to deliver an undefeated season and national championship and Heisman Trophy. The team fell short while he was there because their defense sucked. But Landry got the blame and everybody talked about how bad he was and that just carried over. You don’t go from completing 63% of 2183 passes to being horrible and not being able to even throw. Landry had 4 4000 yard years in a row. He is going to be a franchise quarterback in the NFL. Hack last night he completed 9 of 11 149 yards all of which came in the fourth quarter with the crappy line and throwing two guys who aren’t going to make the team. You should have led them to three scoring drives but they could not convert a first and goal from the 1. Sports guys R going to lose credibility by going against the obvious. Thanks for being fair.

  11. Old old old, Todd Hayley goes nowhere unless it’s for a head coaching job.

  12. Brown if he stays healthy and loyal to the steelers has the talent to be another Hines Ward but with numbers that will one day put him in the hall of fame. Mike Wallace seems to have no true loyality to any team now on his third team, don’t get me wrong he is a great player but he needs to stay put in one place for awhile and not get greedy over money issues.

  13. 1.) J. Stallworth
    2.) L. Swann
    3.) A. Brown
    4.) L. Lipps
    5.) S. Holmes
    6.) Y. Thigpen
    7.) A.R. El
    8.) B. Dial
    9.) R. Shanklin
    10.) R. Jefferson

  14. Steel City Terror on Stop Blaming Todd Haley

    its 3 and 8, 2:00 warning, down by a field goal on the 50 yard line, lets call a slow developing run play… #haleylogic

  15. Timmons was not a good OLB. That’s why they moved him inside. They have repeatedly said that they will NOT move Shazier to Safety. That whole scenario was and is a fan’s pipe dream. So, they better draft well this year and hope that Shamarko is ready to take over for Troy.

  16. I knew from his rookie season he was going to be a HOF-level QB, and I’m a lifelong Cowboys fan

    • Btw, you cannot discount Romo’s season bc of passing attempts! That is silly, as it is probably the most meaningless stat for QB’s. He had an MVP-level year, and tops in almost every important category: y/a, comp%, QBR, Passer Rating, TD%, pretty much everything except less meaningful “compiler” stats like total Passing Yards (there’s a reason the leader in passing yards has never won a SB). When quarterbacks who aren’t even very good like Stafford and Eli can throw for 5,000 yards, it doesn’t mean as much.

      Despite throwing as much as 150-200 less passes he had more TD passes than everyone on that top 7 list except Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck(including Roethlisberger)-I’d personally rather have QB 4th in TD passes and first in TD% than someone who had 5000 yards because he had to throw it a ridiculous amount of times.. He was so effective each time he passed (8.5 y/a!), he didn’t need to throw it 600 times. Some ppl have a misconception that it was the running game our offense leaned on, but it was the big-play passing game that was the key. He had games where he only threw it 20 times because he already had 4 touchdowns and 250 yards and the Cowboys were up by 30. Then we’d finish the game out with Murray. Agreed that Rodgers was the best, but Romo was def a close second. Then I’d put Ben at 3rd. All three had great rb’s as well, lets not forget – and I think we all agree LeVeon is better than Murray.

      It was nice to see Ben have such a phenomenal season – that game against the Colts is in my top 5 performances I have witnessed from a QB. Ha, interesting sidenote – just remembered, Romo shredded that otherwise pretty good pass defense as well (42-7, passer rating 150+) .

      • It’s really an exercise in hair-splitting to rank Roethlisberger, Romo and Brady based on their performances this season. Rodgers was better than all three, but altogether these QBs were the “fab four” of 2014. Rodgers was the league MVP, and Brady got the ring. Roethlisberger was the passing yards leader, and Romo the efficiency leader. All four took their teams to the playoffs.

        Below the four of them were Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Andrew Luck and Philip Rivers. Luck turns the ball over way too much for me to consider him “elite” right now, and Brees was sloppy all season. Rivers started red hot but stumbled badly down the stretch, comeback against the 49ers notwithstanding. As for Manning, I know some people don’t want to hear it, but I believe he’s now in terminal decline, and he’s finished after 2015 — provided the Broncos don’t move on from him already.

      • Travis, before I even read your second comment I was going to say Romo had a great year. Of course, this is a Steelers site and the article is geared toward Ben, but I wouldn’t discredit anything Romo did, and much of what you say is true. If Ben isn’t 2nd, he’s tied or a very close 3rd with Romo in the mix. However, Romo wasn’t 1 of the 7 chosen on the Top 100 list, ahead of Ben. That makes his mention in this article a testament to the season he had. (Also makes a good argument for an X QBs better than Romo, in your case!)

        • Well said. I know it’s a Steelers site, and I’m not a big fan obvs based on my team of preference, (however I certainly wanted to see them crush the Ravens), but I am a fan of Big Ben.

          Those top 100 lists are so foolish, basically popularity contests. It’ll be interesting to see how they get it wrong this year. This is what I’m hoping for (so I’m sure it won’t happen lol):

          1. Aaron Rodgers

          2. Tony Romo

          3. Ben Roethlisberger

          4. Peyton Manning (still had a great year despite a tired arm in second half)

          5. Tom Brady (regular season was more in line w/early years, i.e. not great – I’ll give him some love for SB but to me this is mostly supposed to be regular season based and Brady only avg’d 7.1, 19th in the league-ouch!)

          6. Drew Brees

          7. Andrew Luck

          8. Russell Wilson (he is actually quite a good passer; look at his stats sometime, very accurate down field)

          9. Matt Ryan (considering his D he esp played well)

          10) Eli Manning (even though most overrated QB in history, did have a good year)

          • I like it. If I had to guess how they’ll “screw up” this is what it will look like:

            1. Aaron Rodgers
            2. Tom Brady
            3. Andrew Luck
            4. Russell Wilson
            5. Peyton Manning
            6. Drew Brees
            7. Tony Romo
            8. Ben Roethlisberger
            9. Phillip Rivers
            10. Joe Flacco

            I expect to see Andy Dalton, Matt Ryan, Matt Stafford and Eli in that mix somewhere too. Not because Dalton is any good, but for the same reason I have Flacco listed: popularity contest.

  17. It’s called “sarcasm”. You idiots. Proving that indeed, the Steelers have one of the dumbest fanbases in America.